OPRAH: Eat well. DEAN: Eat well. OPRAH: By eating well, you mean plant-based diet. And I think that’s interesting. You don’t say vegetarian or vegan. You say eat a more plant-based diet. DEAN: That’s right. OPRAH: What does that mean? DEAN: Fruits. Vegetables. Whole grains. Legumes. And as they come in nature. You know, it is basically a vegan diet. But vegan is one of those words that kind of pushes people’s buttons, you know. OPRAH: Yeah. DEAN: But it’s a plant-based diet. I think that’s the easiest way to describe it. It’s low in fat and low in sugar. OPRAH: Okay. And move more. DEAN: Move more is if you like it, you’ll do Try to find an exercise that — a combination of aerobic and strength training and some stretching as well. OPRAH: I think walking is just the best thing. And I’ve got all these hills and mountains out there. DEAN: It is. OPRAH: I mean, it’s just the best thing. DEAN: Yeah, walking an hour a day is all we ask people to do. OPRAH: And that would actually make a change? DEAN: That can reverse most chronic diseases in combination with these other things. OPRAH: Yeah. I often think that about my — my mother and other relatives. I mean, particularly in the African American community, there’s a whole group of people who just stop moving after a certain age. DEAN: Yes. OPRAH: Yes. DEAN: It’s not just African Americans. It’s everyone. I talk in the book that sitting is the new smoking. You know, that there’s — OPRAH: Interesting. DEAN: Because — there’s simple things you can do. If you can incorporate it into your daily life. Just get a portable phone, for example. Walk around when you’re talking on the phone. Take the stairs a flight or two. I used to get frustrated when I couldn’t find a parking space near the gym. I thought this is ridiculous. So I just deliberately parked farther away just so I could get a little bit of exercise and not feel so stressed out.