Herman and Sharron – Aimee Cabo and Boris Nikolov “Love is the Answer, God is the Cure”


MUSIC MUSIC CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY THE STAFF OF CTN>>MUSIC>>IT’S TIME!! WITH HERMAN AND SHARRON!!>>ALRIGHT.>>SHARRON: HELLO. HELLO.>>HERMAN: WE’VE GOT OUR SPECIAL GUEST TODAY.>>SHARRON: WE ALWAYS DO.>>HERMAN: YOU LOOK SO NICE TODAY AND DO YOU FEEL GOOD? SOMETIMES I BECOME FRUSTRATED.>>SHARRON: I DO, AN I KNOW.>>HERMAN: I HAVE TO HAVE IT RIGHT, IT DRIVES ME CRAZY.>>SHARRON: THAT DOES NOT TAKE MUCH, TO DRIVE YOU CRAZY.>>HERMAN: I KNOW. WHAT DO THEY CALL IT?>>SHARRON: AND YOU HAVE OBSESSIVE-COMPULSIVE BEHAVIOR. AND THAT IS WHAT IT IS, EVERYTHING MUST BE LIKE THIS. ALL OF HIS COLOGNE IS LINED UP.>>HERMAN: ALL OF MY SUITS HAVE TO BE COVERED IN PLASTIC, AND MAYBE I WOULD MAKE IT JUST SO, AND YOU KNOW I HAVE TO TURN MY VITAMINS JUST RIGHT.>>SHARRON: AND HE SIMPLY NEEDS PRAYER, HE WILL BE ALL RIGHT.>>HERMAN: SPEAKING OF THAT, I PRAYED A LOT ABOUT TODAY’S PROGRAM.>>SHARRON: YOU KNOW WHAT? I AM EXCITED ABOUT OUR PROGRAM TODAY, I BELIEVE THIS WOULD BE A GOOD ONE.>>HERMAN: WE HAD A GREAT TIME BACK IN THE GREEN ROOM.>>SHARRON: YES WE DID, I THINK YOU FRIGHTENED AMY, AND SHE IS GETTING OVER IT.>>HERMAN: AND YOU KNOW BORIS IS A VERY BIG GUY.>>SHARRON: WE WILL MEET THEM IN A MOMENT.>>HERMAN: I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THIS AND THEN, DAVE IS GOING TO BE COMING OUT ON OUR GUEST, AND YOU WILL SEE THEIR FACES, AND THEN I WOULD HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF INTERVIEWING AMY AND PLEASE WATCH THIS.>>FAITH, ONE WORD, JUST ONE WORD, FAITH, THE WORD THAT BRINGS COMFORT, THE BOOK IS BASED UPON THE AWARD-WINNING NOVEL, LOVE IS THE ANSWER, A VERY SPECIAL BOOK, AND THIS TELLS THE STORY OF ONE WOMAN’S COURAGE IN OVERCOMING SEXUAL, PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL ABUSE. AND ADDICTION, CHILDHOOD LOSS, AND MORE. FUELED BY THE INCOMPARABLE POWER OF LOVE, AND COURAGE AND PERSEVERANCE AND OF COURSE MOST IMPORTANTLY– FAITH. WHEN LIFE HAPPENS, IT CAN TAKE ALL THAT YOU HAVE TO GO ON. EVERYTHING YOU HAVE THE KEEP GOING, THE EXCITING STORY, YOU CAN BELIEVE AND WITH GOD’S HELP YOU CAN GET THROUGH ANY CHALLENGE. IT DOES TAKE THE DIVINE POWER OF THE ALMIGHTY GOD, AND IT TAKES… FAITH.>>THERE IS, THAT IS AMY. AND THIS IS BORIS. I SAID IN THE ROOM, AND WE WILL ADJUST OUR FIRST NAMES ONLY. YOUR WHOLE NAME, IT IS SO GOOD TO HAVE YOU.>>MY NAME IS AMY.>>I’M BORIS NICOLAOF>>HERMAN: AND YOU KNOW, AND YOU SAW THE EXPOSÉ THAT YOU JUST SAW IN THE VIDEO CLIP, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, AND WE HAD A MINUTE BACK IN THE GREEN ROOM, WE WERE TALKING. I MUST SAY, I KNOW, I WANT YOU TO GET YOUR BOOK AND THIS IS SUCH AN AMAZING STORY, AND YOU KNOW IT DO YOU KNOW HOW I SAY THAT? IT IS AMAZING. IF YOU HAVE THE BOOK IN YOUR HOME. AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU WOULD PUT THIS IN A PLACE WHERE THE CHILDREN CANNOT GET TO IT. DO YOU HAVE THAT?.>>SHARRON: NOW EVERYBODY BUT A LOT OF THE BOOK.>>HERMAN: THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT TIME. AND LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT AMY AND BORIS, AND YOU WILL FIND OUT ABOUT HIM. AND SHE IS A RADIO TALK SHOW HOSTESS, IT IS CALLED THE CURE. AND SHE IS A TRAINED NURSE, AND THE PRESIDENT OF YOUR OWN MINISTRY AND ALSO A MEDICAL RESEARCH COMPANY AND SHE IS BRILLIANT. SHE WAS BORN IN CUBA, HOWEVER AS AN AMERICAN SHE HAS LIVED MOST OF HER LIFE IN MIAMI FLORIDA. HER STORY IS ONE OF VICTORY EVEN THOUGH SHE SUFFERED SEXUAL ABUSE, AND EMOTIONAL ABUSE. PHYSICAL ABUSE, BEYOND WHATEVER YOU COULD DESCRIBE. TRUST ME YOU KNOW, YOU GET THE BOOK. AND THEN SHE WAS FACING HER ABUSERS IN A TRIAL, AND THE MEDIA SAID, IT WAS CALLED THE CASE FROM HELL. AND YOU HAVE LIVED A FEW LIFETIMES ALREADY.>>GUEST: WELL YES,>>HERMAN: ALRIGHT I WANT YOU TO TALK UP.>>GUEST: I REMEMBER, I HAD BEEN THROUGH CUSTODY BATTLES, AND YOU KNOW IT WOULD NEVER END, AND THEY SAID, I WAS LIKE JOB. AND THIS LASTED FOR FOURTEEN YEARS. I THINK, ELEMENT SOMEBODY SUFFERS FOR A VERY LONG TIME, AND YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE BECAUSE IT CAN TAKE IT, IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET IT RIGHT AND MAKE A MASTERPIECE. IT WAS NOT THAT GOD WAS NOT THERE OR HE ABANDONED ME, BUT IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO GET IT RIGHT.>>HERMAN: WE MUST SAY BORIS, AND HE WAS WITH HER, AND—AT MY ASSISTANT LINDA OPSAHL AND SHE SAID AND DO YOU WANT HIM ON THE PROGRAM? AND YOU KNOW HE ONLY HAD A BLACK T-SHIRT AND I SAID THAT WOULD BE FINE. AND WE KNEW IT WOULD BE GOOD. AND SHE SAID, AND THEY WILL WORK TOGETHER AND WE THANK YOU BORIS, AND YOU DID NOT PLAN ON THIS.>>GUEST: ANNULAR, THAT WAS SOMEWHAT SURPRISING.>>HERMAN: ARE YOU A DOCTOR?>>GUEST: I AM.>>HERMAN: AND SO YOU GUYS YOU GOT TOGETHER WHERE?>>GUEST: AND WE MET, IT IS FUNNY, SHE WAS ON A VOCATION AND WE WERE IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. I WAS A DOCTOR SERVING THERE.>>HERMAN: AND YOU KNOW, AND WHAT DID YOU SAY?…>>GUEST: AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS MY SISTER’S HONEYMOON, AND WE WENT WITH THEM, MY YOUNGER SISTER AND YOU KNOW, SHE’S VERY FRIENDLY AND I’M QUITE PICKY. AND YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING… I LIKE HIM.>>HERMAN: AND WHAT YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH YOU SHOULD NOT LIKE ANYBODY.>>GUEST: AND YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW MY FAMILY WAS TOGETHER, AND YOU KNOW I THOUGHT I LIKED HIM, AND SO, I WENT.>>HERMAN: AND THIS IS IN THE BOOK, SO YOU LEFT HIM, AND THEN YOU KNOW, YOU DID NOT KNOW EVEN HOW TO FIND HIM AGAIN. AND YOU DID NOT KNOW WHAT WAS WRONG?>>GUEST: AND THE PERSON BEHIND THE DESK, AND THEY SAID, YOU’LL HAVE TO FIND THEM ON YOUR OWN.>>HERMAN: AND SO YOU FOUND HIM?>>GUEST: I FOUND HIM IN OCTOBER OF ABOUT 2000, AND WE GOT ENGAGED. AND WE GOT MARRIED IN DECEMBER.>>HERMAN: AND YOU KNOW LINDA GAVE ME ALL OF THE STORY, AND YOU WERE, YOU WERE MARRIED FOR THREE TIMES ?>>GUEST: YES, I WAS MARRIED IN THE DOMINICAN, AND WE HAD TO DO THINGS LEGALLY.>>HERMAN: AND SO, AND THEN YOU DID IT AGAIN? BY A PRIEST IN MIAMI?>>GUEST: AND THAT WAS MIAMI IN 2003. AND THEN WE WENT TO BULGARIA, AND YOU KNOW, THEN WE DID THIS WITH THE ORTHODOX CHURCH THERE. AND WE COVERED THE BASES TO DO IT RIGHT.>>HERMAN: AND ARE YOU GREEK?>>GUEST: YES, I AM BULGARIA, BUT YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE LIKE GREEK ORTHODOX THERE.>>HERMAN: AND HOW MANY LANGUAGES YOU CAN SPEAK?>>GUEST: I SPEAK RUSSIAN AND SPANISH AND ENGLISH.>>HERMAN: AND HE IS A MEDICAL DOCTOR.>>SHARRON: AND IS THERE A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RUSSIANS AND THE BULGARIANS? LANGUAGES?>>GUEST: AND THEY ALSO WORK ON THE SAME ALPHABET.>>HERMAN: ALL RIGHT, YOU CAME FROM A BIG BACKGROUND, RIGHT? AND YOU KNOW, YOUR FAMILY WAS WELL-EDUCATED. AND YOUR MOTHER WAS NEUROLOGIST?>>GUEST: AND YES, AND WE HAD FAMILY THAT WAS IN THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY.>>SHARRON: HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN YOU CAME OVER HERE?>>GUEST: AND WHEN FIDEL CAME INTO POWER MY FAMILY LEFT CUBA, I WAS BORN IN MIAMI, AND THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, I AM 100% CUBAN.>>HERMAN: AND DO YOU SPEAK SPANISH?>>GUEST: YES.>>HERMAN: IN YOUR HOME, AND YOU DON’T THINK OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE SO WELL-EDUCATED. AND YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD NOT THINK OF THEM BEING ABUSIVE. AND USUALLY AND MAYBE HAD BEEN IN THE GHETTO.>>GUEST: IT WOULD BE A MISCONCEPTION.>>HERMAN: YES, THAT WOULD BE RIGHT, AT WHAT HAPPENED FOR YOU WHEN YOU CAME UP?>>GUEST: AND WE WERE THE PERFECT FAMILY AND MY MOTHER CAME FROM VIRGINIA AND SHE WAS A SINGLE MOTHER AND SHE WAS A PROMINENT NEUROLOGIST, AND YOU KNOW, AND EVERYBODY LIKED HER. MY STEPFATHER, AND HE WAS A NICE GUY AND MY MOTHER HAD A STRONG PERSONALITY. EVERYBODY LOVES MY STEPFATHER. AND THEY THOUGHT EVERYBODY WAS SAY WE ARE SO WELL BEHAVED. BUT WE WERE AFRAID OF OUR MOTHER AND THERE WERE NINE OF US. THIS IS WHY WE WERE SO WELL BEHAVED.>>HERMAN: SO THAT WOULD BE IN THE BOOK, THAT SHE WOULD HIT YOU WITH A RAZOR STRAP? AND MAYBE PUT YOUR HEAD THROUGH THE WALL?>>GUEST: YES, SHE WOULD HIT ME WITH THE BELT, AND SHE BROKE THE WALL WITH MY HEAD. SHE PUT MY HEAD THROUGH THE WALL. I SAID TO MY STEPFATHER PLEASE DON’T KILL HER. IT REALLY GOT BAD.>>SHARRON: AND WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR FATHER, ALRIGHT AND WAS YOUR FAMILY DIVORCED?>>GUEST: MY MOTHER HAD FIVE KIDS AT FIRST, WITH ONE MAN, AND THEY WENT TO THE DOMINICAN TO STUDY MEDICINE, AND THEN SHE HAD ANOTHER CHILD, AND THEN SHE HAD THREE CHILDREN WITH THIS MAN THAT WAS THE PEDOPHILE, MY STEPFATHER.>>HERMAN: AND WHEN DID THE ABUSE BEGIN?>>GUEST: MY EARLIEST MEMORY, I WAS SEVEN. I THOUGHT JESUS CAME DOWN, HE WAS DRESSED IN WHITE. HE TOUCHED THE FLOOR. AND THE ANGELS WERE SINGING, A LOVELY BEAUTIFUL SONG. ANNULAR, THERE WERE LITTLE CHILDREN ALL AROUND ME AND THEY WERE LAUGHING AND THEY RAN TO HIM. HE SAID COME TO ME MY CHILD. AND AFTER THAT, SHORTLY, I WAS IN THE BATHROOM, AND IT WOULD HURT ME. AND MY MOTHER WANTED TO KNOW WHY AND I TOLD HER WHAT WAS HAPPENING.>>HERMAN: AND WHO WAS THIS?>>GUEST: THIS WAS MY STEPFATHER, SHE CONFRONTED HIM, THE DOORS CLOSED, AND WE HEARD MUCH SCREAMING. AND MY STEPFATHER CAME OUT, HIS HAIR WAS MESSED UP. HE SAID HE WAS SORRY. HE SAID HE WOULD GO GET SOME HELP. AND THEN LATER HE CAME BACK TWO DAYS. AND THEN IT KEPT HAPPENING AGAIN. IT CONTINUED. I WAS FINALLY FIFTEEN.>>HERMAN: AND HOW ABOUT YOUR BROTHERS?>>GUEST: AND MY BROTHER, HE WOULD GET ME INTO TROUBLE. AND THEN WHEN HE DID THAT I WOULD GET BEATEN UP. AND YOU KNOW, THEN HE WOULD GET THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT FROM MY MOTHER. AND THIS IS HOW HE WOULD BE LOVED. AND SHE WOULD REWARD OF THE KIDS WHO WOULD TELL OF OF ONE ANOTHER. AND YES, I WAS THE BLACK SHEEP ACCORDING TO EVERYBODY AND I WAS, AND YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, HE WAS MY BEST FRIEND.>>HERMAN: AND THEN YOU FOUND OUT, AND HE WAS ABUSING YOUR SISTER?>>GUEST: I WALKED INTO THE KITCHEN, AND HE WAS FONDLING HER. AND THIS IS WHY SHE RAN AWAY. AND THIS IS AS FAR AS IT WENT AND SHE WAS ABLE TO GET AWAY. I WAS THE ONE LEFT BEHIND.>>HERMAN: AND WHEN DID YOU TAKE ALL THAT YOU COULD TAKE? AND YOU WENT TO THE NEIGHBORS? AND THEY CALLED THE POLICE?>>GUEST: WHEN MY SISTER CAME HOME SHE WAS GOING TO RUN AWAY, I WANTED TO GO WITH HER. AND SHE SAID WHY? I TOLD HER WHAT WAS HAPPENING. AND THEN SHE CALLED THE POLICE. THERE WERE MANY POLICE IN THE HOUSE. WE WERE ALL REMOVED. AND THIS WAS THE TRAIL FROM HELL THAT WAS GOING ON FOR FIVE YEARS.>>HERMAN: ALL RIGHT AT WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT? DID YOU TESTIFY?>>GUEST: NO.>>HERMAN: AND DID YOU TELL YOUR STORY?>>GUEST: IT BECAME A FIGHT, THE FIGHT BETWEEN THE FIGHT BETWEEN THE STATE AND THE MEDIA AND THE POLICE, AND THE JUDGE AND THE STATE, THEY DID BELIEVE ME, AND HE WAS FOUND GUILTY. AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE A POWER-PLAY. AND WHEN I GOT TO PROVE WHAT WAS HAPPENING. IN MY WORLD, I WANTED TO PROVE WHAT WAS HAPPENING WHATEVER. I REMEMBER I SAW MY STEPFATHER NAKED. AND SO I RECORDED HIM, AND I TAPE-RECORDED HIM. I DID IT, IT WAS WITHOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE.>>SHARRON: DID THEY BELIEVE YOU?>>GUEST: AND YOU KNOW, THEY WANTED TO PROSECUTE ME FOR RECORDING HIM, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY WANTED TO PROSECUTE ME BECAUSE I HAD RECORDED HIM WITHOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE.>>HERMAN: AND SO ALL OF THIS IS IN THE BOOK. I’M LAUGHING BECAUSE, AS I WAS TALKING TO AMY. I HAVE BEEN WITH MANY PEOPLE, I HAVE BEEN, I HAVE BEEN WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE BEEN RAPED, AND THEY MIGHT SAY I WAS RAPED. AMY, AND SHE GOES INTO DETAIL. I’M GOING WOW. AND THIS IS THE WILD PART. AND SHE SAYS, I’M VERY HONEST. AND YOU DID NOT WANT ANY MISUNDERSTANDING AS TO WHAT HAD HAPPENED. AND MAYBE SOME FOLKS MIGHT SAY, RAPE, WAY MAYBE YOU KNOW, THEY TOUCHED YOU, OR TICKLE YOU OR WHATEVER. BUT YOU KNOW, IT WAS ONGOING.>>GUEST: YES IT WAS AN EVERYDAY THING. AND THE BEATINGS WOULD BE ALMOST EVERY DAY, BUT THE SEXUAL ABUSE IT WAS EVERY DAY.>>SHARRON: AND THIS IS COMING TO MY HEAD, YOU ARE MARRIED TO BORIS, AND IS THERE A PROBLEM IN THE MARRIAGE, AND WHEN YOU GO THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THIS? AND CAN YOU FORGET ABOUT IT?>>GUEST: IT WAS SO DIFFICULT FOR HIM, IT TOOK ME A VERY LONG TIME TO GET TO WHERE I AM TODAY. I SUFFERED FOR MANY YEARS LIKE TWENTY-FIVE YEARS. I WENT THROUGH DEPRESSION. I WISH I HAD MORE FAITH. I WOULD NOT HAVE SUFFERED SO MUCH BUT I WENT THROUGH DEPRESSION IN THIS CUSTODY BATTLE. I HAD PAIN I DID NOT UNDERSTAND. I WAS NOT PROUD OF IT AND I WAS SELF-MEDICATING. AND I’M THINKING MAYBE I WAS MEANT TO SUFFER, I DID NOT DESERVE GOD’S HELP, AND I COULD NOT EVEN HELP MYSELF. AND THAT WAS SO HARD FOR ME. BUT HE WAS SO SUPPORTIVE. HE WAS THERE FOR ME.>>HERMAN: YOU ARE QUITE THE MAN. YOU ARE QUITE A MAN.>>GUEST: I JUST TRY MY BEST.>>HERMAN: AND SO, AND YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH THIS AND YOU HAD TO KNOW, AND YOU KNEW THE BACKGROUND.>>GUEST: YES. I WAS IN LOVE WITH HER. I WAS TRYING TO HELP HER.>>HERMAN: I THANK GOD FOR HIM. AND YOU KNOW HE HAD BEEN ENGAGED FOR FOUR YEARS, AND YOU KNOW, HIS FIANCÉE DIED, BUT WE WERE TOGETHER FOR ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AND I WANTED SOME TYPE OF SIGN. I SAID IF THIS IS THE ONE FOR ME AND TAKE A CHANCE, IT WOULD BE HARD. HAVE TO WAIT FOR HIM, AND WITHOUT HIM AT TIMES, GIVE ME SOME KIND OF SIGN. ANNULAR, I WANTED HIM TO PROPOSE TO ME. AND THEM WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME HE DID.>>HERMAN: AND HOW DID YOU DO THAT? THE PROPOSAL? I LOVE HIS LAUGHTER. HE IS INFECTIOUS.>>I WENT, I WENT FROM THE JEWELRY STORE, TO THE HOTEL. I GAVE HER THE RING.>>HERMAN: AND DUDE YOU GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEE?>>GUEST: I CANNOT REMEMBER.>>HERMAN: AND YOU KNOW, I SEE THAT IN THE MOVIES, I’M THINKING ALL RIGHT.>>GUEST: I PROBABLY DID.>>GUEST: AND YOU KNOW, I WAS TELLING ABOUT MY VALUES TO HIM, IT IS NEVER TOO LATE TO DO THE RIGHT THING, I SAID LET’S DO THINGS RIGHT. HE SAYS OKAY LET’S GET MARRIED. LET’S GET THE RING. AND WE DECIDED RIGHT THERE.>>HERMAN: SHE REMEMBERS.>>GUEST: AND WE WERE HAPPY TOGETHER.>>GUEST: I WAS POOR IN THE DOMINICAN, I GOT A VERY SMALL RING. IT WAS MODEST. AND IN THE DOMINICAN THEY ARE SO POOR.>>HERMAN: AND YOU WERE THERE.>>SHARRON: YES, WE WERE THERE.>>HERMAN: I WAS WORKING WITH DOCTOR JIM GIL’S, HE IS A DOCTOR AND A SURGEON, HE DOES EYES SURGERY, AND HE WAS WORKING IN HAITI. AND HE WAS WORKING WERE THE POOREST OF THE POOR. ANNULAR, LIKE MY GLASSES, THEY WOULD COLLECT THEM. AND ABLE TO TAKE ALL OF THE FRAMES. AND THEN THE PEOPLE COULD GET SOME GLASSES. AND WE WENT OVER, AND WE DID AN ENTIRE PROGRAM OVER THERE. IT IS BEAUTIFUL, THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. WE VISITED HAITI, AND THAT IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR. AND I REMEMBER THE KIDS RUNNING UP, AND THEY WOULD GRAB ME. IT WOULD BE LIKE THEY KNEW ME. IT IS AMAZING AND HOW LONG DID YOU STAY THERE? IN THE DOMINICAN.>>GUEST: IT WAS A VACATION, I WAS THERE FOR SEVEN DAYS, BUT WHEN I WAS VERY YOUNG I WAS THERE FROM 3-7.>>AND THEN I WAS THERE FOR THREE YEARS, AND WHAT WOULD BE SO AMAZING…>>HERMAN: AND I FORGET, WE STAYED WITH THE DOCTOR, AND YOU KNOW, I WAS IN THE HOME OF A DOCTOR. GREAT PEOPLE. IT WOULD BE SUCH AN AMAZING PLACE. YOU CANNOT EXPLAIN IT. IT IS HARD IN AMERICA TO COMPARE THEM.>>SHARRON: AND WHAT HAPPENED AT THE TRIAL?>>GUEST: WELL, MY MOTHER, AND YOU KNOW SHE IS STRONG, AND SHE IS A GENIUS PERSONALITY. VERY STRONG PERSONALITY, AFTER FOUR YEARS OF FIGHTING. AND THEY WOULD PRINT DIFFERENT STORIES. AND MY SISTER, TO ME, AND SHE WANTED THE KIDS, AND THEY SAID WE WANTED THE MONEY. IT WAS VERY SENSATIONAL. AND FINALLY WE CAME BACK. I HAD TO TAPE-RECORD HIM. TO APPROVED MY MOTHER. AND YOU KNOW, AT WE DID NOT WANT THIS TO CONTINUE.>>HERMAN: AND WE TALK ABOUT THIS IN DETAIL, YOU DID TAPE-RECORD HIM, YOU SET HIM UP. AND YOU KNOW, YOU WANTED TO KNOW WHY YOU HAD BEEN RAPED. AND YOU KNOW, AND HE COULD GO RIGHT BACK WHERE HE WAS.>>GUEST: AND YOU KNOW, EVEN AFTER ALL OF THIS HAD HAPPENED. IT WAS IMPORTANT, I HAD TO PROVE IT TO MY MOTHER.>>SHARRON: AND DID YOUR MOTHER STAY WITH HIM?>>GUEST: SHE IS STILL WITH HIM, SHE ONLY TALKS TO ARE FEW OF US. ANNULAR, AND THEN THEY KNEW ABOUT THE BAD THINGS IN THE COURT CASE.>>AND SO THE LAW ALLOWED HER TO KEEP THE KIDS?>>GUEST: AND EVEN THOUGH HE WAS CONVICTED. HE WAS FOUND GUILTY.>>GUEST: AND BECAUSE OF THE PRESTIGE, THE POLICE, AND THE MEDIA, IT WAS OKAY. HE GOT AWAY WITH IT.>>HERMAN: THAT HAPPENS TODAY, AND IF YOU WOULD BE SENTENCED, AND YOU SEE HOW MUCH MONEY PEOPLE HAVE. AND IF YOU ARE TOO BIG TO BE PUT INTO JAIL FINANCIALLY, AND YOU VERY POPULAR. IT’S VERY DIFFICULT. IT IS AMAZING.>>SHARRON: AND GOING THROUGH THIS, AND MAYBE SOMEBODY WOULD COME TO YOU, A YOUNG GIRL, AND WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO HER? AND WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE TO HER?>>GUEST: YOU WOULD PRAY EVERY DAY, I THINK THAT COULD BE A SOURCE OF STRENGTH. AND YOU CAN HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD, PRAY EVERY DAY TO BE CLOSE TO HIM. AND YOU KNOW, I WOULD PRAY EVERY DAY, I FINALLY REALIZED, MY EYES HAD BEEN OPENED. I HAD TO BE GRATEFUL. AT WHAT WAS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE HAD TO BE THERE FOR ONE ANOTHER. LIFE IS A BLESSING IN THE TIME IS SHORT. AND YOU MUST MAKE THE BEST OF EVERY DAY. AND YOU MUST SET A GOOD EXAMPLE. I LEARNED GOD DID LOVE ME THROUGH THE PRAYER THAT WAS SO IMPORTANT. AND PEOPLE, AND DON’T YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE YOU FEEL BAD OR DEPRESSED. AND THEY WANT TO TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH, YOU ARE BROKEN. AND WHEN YOU PRAY, I GAINED STRENGTH. THE SONG AMAZING GRACE, I WAS BLIND AND NOW I CAN SEE AND YES THAT’S NOT KIDDING. YOU SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY. YOU WOULD LOOK AT THE BRIGHT SIDE AND NOT THE NEGATIVE ALL THE TIME. IT WOULD BE AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT WORLD. I WOULD SING THAT SONG AND THAT WOULD BRING ME MY HEALTH AND MY HEALING. AND YOU KNOW I LIVED IN SUCH AGONY. I HAD SO MUCH PAIN. I WOULD BE HIGHER ON DRUGS, I WOULD PRAY THAT I COULD GET OUT OF THE TORTURE, I DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD NEVER END. AND YOU KNOW IT COULD BE SO VERY DIFFICULT.>>SHARRON: AND DO YOU TALK TO YOUR MOTHER?>>GUEST: I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO HER, SINCE I WAS EIGHTEEN. YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD FORGIVEN HER AND THEN I WAS THINKING IF I HAD FORGIVEN HER, I NEEDED TO ACT UPON IT. I SENT HER AN EMAIL. I SAID I DON’T JUDGE YOU, I HAD NEVER BEEN IN HER SHOES. AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO SHOOT ME AND I COULD NOT SAY ANYTHING. I LOVE HER. I NEVER GOT A RESPONSE. AND I KNOW THAT I HAVE FORGIVEN HER. I CAN BE KIND TO HER, AND LIKE OTHERS. IT IS HARD, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU CAN BE KIND.>>HERMAN: AND THIS ENTIRE PROGRAM WOULD BE ABOUT HAVING A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST. AND CAN I PRAY FOR YOU GUYS? LORD I WOULD PRAY, I PRAY YOU COULD USE THE STORY, AMY, I WOULD PRAY LORD, AND IN THE RELATIONSHIP IT WOULD BE SO SIMPLE, OH, GOD, COMING TO MY HEART AND MY LIFE, FORGIVE ME OF ALL OF MY SINS, I — I INVITE YOU TO CHANGE MY LIFE AND COME INTO MY LIFE, THROUGH YOUR SHARE THE BLOOD UPON THE CROSS OF CALVARY, IT WAS YOUR DEATH AND YOUR BURIAL AND THE RESURRECTION AND I TRUST YOU AS MY ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN. IN THE NAME OF JESUS. IN THE NAME OF JESUS AMEN.>>HERMAN: AND THIS IS QUITE A STORY AND WILL YOU DO A MOVIE ABOUT IT?>>GUEST: WE ARE WORKING ON IT.>>GUEST: EVERYTHING I’VE BEEN THROUGH, THE ABUSE ACTUALLY, AND YOU KNOW IT WAS LONG TERM PHYSICAL ABUSE AND EMOTIONALLY, AND THE VIOLENCE. AND OF ALL, OF ALL OF IT AND NOTHING WAS HARD OF IT. AND YOU KNOW, I WAS FOUR MONTHS PREGNANT. I HAD TO HAVE AN ABORTION I KNEW IT WAS WRONG, I HAD NO OTHER CHOICE. ANNULAR TODAY THERE ARE SO MANY CHOICES. I AM SO GRATEFUL.>>SHARRON: HOW DO YOU LIVE WITH IT?>>GUEST: IT IS SO HARD AND I MADE A PACT I WOULD NEVER HURT ANYBODY, EVEN IF THEY HAD HEARD ME. EVERYTHING THAT WAS HAD HAPPENED TO ME, BUT HOW COULD I FORGIVE MYSELF FOR THIS? I KILLED MY OWN CHILD. AND MAYBE GOD CAN FORGIVE ME BUT I CANNOT FORGIVE MYSELF.>>SHARRON: AND GOD FORGIVE YOU OF EVERYTHING. ABSOLUTELY.>>HERMAN: THIS IS WHY HE CAME. HE BLED AND HE DIED FOR YOU. AND HE CONQUERED SIN AND DEATH. AND HE IS THE CONQUEROR. IT IS SO GOOD TO HAVE YOU, AND THIS IS SO GOOD, AND YOU CAN GO TO THE WEBSITE AND GET YOUR COPY. AND YOU KNOW, THE BOOK DOES NOT SIMPLY SAY I WAS RAPED, BUT IT TELLS YOU EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS.>>SHARRON: AND SHE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD GO THROUGH THIS.>>HERMAN: IT IS AN AMAZING STORY. IT IS SO POSSIBLE, AND YOU KNOW, AND YOU, AND YOU WOULD WONDER WHAT SOMEBODY WOULD GO THROUGH ON A REGULAR BASIS WHEN THEY ARE RAPED. REMEMBER THAT CHRIST IS THE ANSWER TO EVERY NEED AND GOD BLESS YOU AND GOODBYE.>>MUSIC>>CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY THE STAFF OF CTN>>MUSIC>>MUSIC>>MUSIC>>MUSIC>>MUSIC>>MUSIC

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